[ANNOUNCEMENT] This is NOT a JoviTalk killer.

I have been posting on Jovitalk since about 2001 so it's not likely I will forget it. However I have been running a filesharing board for years without any drama - no pop-ups etc. Peter seems to have gone over the edge

As of right now, the AdBlock redirect is gone on JoviTalk, which is a major step in the right direction. As I said on JoviTalk, if JoviTalk becomes usable again, I'll be closing up this board. Again, this board is meant to be a temporary substitute (unless JT doesn't pan out), not a full replacement.

Wasn't this discussed several years ago and Peter wanted something like $10,000 dollars for the board?  Maybe I'm off by a decimal because that number seems way too big but I remember something in that size.  There is no way any of us are going to provide that sort of money.

At the time I thought the number was so big because he really didn't want anyone else to have it.  He has been considering "closing" the board since 2005 so I wish he would make up his mind.

$2300 is the price from what I have been reading lately.

Yeah, Peter's original quote was aroung 5000€, then 4000€, now he wants at least 2000€. If we wait a bit more, I'm sure the price will come down.

No, but seriously, I'm not willing to pay those amounts just to get an old, outdated piece of software on a crappy server. I could and would tkae JoviTalk and set it up properly, but YOU'd have to pay ME.

Ice

He's not trying to sell the server. The price is for the board and the admin rights to it. You'd have to pay the server costs (which are most likely monthly fees) separately. And the domain (yearly) too. So 2000€ is for just the board.

But just the database isn't enough, you'd have to host it somewhere in order to transfer it onto another software or convert it. Just a database dump wouldn't get us very far, we'd still need a server and a domain name and a message board software. And regardless of what all of the messageboards claim, the converting process is never as easy as they advertise.

I've used many different messageboard softwares, but I prefer phpBB, as I've used it the most. Don't know about myBB, but generally I think it's best to use the most popular software, since there usually is a reason it is the most popular.

Ice

He thinks he's owed money because he set up the board way back when. I don't think he does, but he believes so.

And not to sound rude, but have you ever converted messageboards from one platform to another? I have, many. I do these sort of things for a living and have been doing them for quite a while now. Started before the turn of the century... And a database dump isn't enough. You need a database server to put the dump on and a server to host the new software and then you need to convert. And like I said, it's never as easy as they make it seem. It's not impossible, but it takes some time. Few days if you're lucky. A lot more if you're not (the older the original board, the harder it is to convert it).

"Unlimited" bandwidth is never really unlimited. It might be unlimited to people from a certain country or using a certain service, but there's always the small print somewhere. A real server that could handle a large board, even as large and active as JT was in it's prime, costs about 200€ per year. And it's not with unlimited bandwidth, but then again, that's probably not needed here.

"Some cutting and pasting" won't give us the user data and I don't think it's feasible to even think about copying the posts by hand. Even if we'd disregard the fact that we couldn't post the posts as users who aren't here.

Large part of JoviTalk's charm is the history. And no matter how good a new board is, it's never going to be the same if we don't get all of the history to go with it. And I don't think that's going to happen. In any case, I'm not paying for it. I can help and offer my time, but I will not give Peter a cent of my money.

Ice